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RONJA - STAVBA

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maco
Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 10.07.2004 - 12:01 #10107
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btw ako kukam na tu fotku http://www.rupkki.sk/pictures/twister.JPG tak C54 a C55 by mali byt osadene co najblizsie ku tomu stabilizatoru a kedze tam ten nie je napajkovany tak by tam nemali byt ani C54 a C55 - stracaju v tom pripade vyznam.
 
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Post subject: hmm  PostPosted: 10.07.2004 - 15:04 #10108
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maco, ak si si vsimol, na plosaku chyba este viac veci, ake C54,C55, napr. IO LS263x.

Dnes sme ronju rozchodili, chodi kvalitne 10MB full duplex, poslem fotky.

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jmi
Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 10.07.2004 - 16:17 #10111
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az sa zasa pojdu robit plosaky, tak myslite na mna, aj ja xcem zopar kuskov
 
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Post subject: zopar fotiek pre inspiraciu  PostPosted: 10.07.2004 - 22:42 #10118
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takze, dnes sme konecne rozchodili ronju nielen na stole, ale in real-life, t.j namontovanu v mechanike.

Zopar fotiek pre inspiraciu:

http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0830.jpg - Kiwi, Janka a Ronja
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0835.jpg - mechanika, v pozadi TWISTER
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0836.jpg - twister
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0861.jpg - mgx s kolegom ladi
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0885.jpg - let there be light
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0913.jpg - end titles
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0921.jpg - protistrana
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF0926.jpg - brainstorming
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF1111.jpg - jozov braigel
http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/cool1.jpg - proof of life
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 11.07.2004 - 04:07 #10120
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dnes som asi 4 hodiny maturoval ze preco to ma jednym smerom paket loss
a skoncilo to na vadnej sietovke alebo nevhodnom OS - to testnem zajtra
linux-linux mi to na 40cm chodi, samba tahala 880kB/s

problem ale mam:
tvari sa mi to halfduplexne aj ked mam na oboch sietovkach v oboch kompoch forcnutych 10baseT-FD
nejaky napad?
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 11.07.2004 - 04:45 #10122
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Chyba moze byt v sietovke. Ja som to doma testoval so sietovkami a chipesotom Sis900 a Realtek 8139. A islo to. Ale ked sme skusali uz ked to bolo postavene, tak pri jednej sietovke s realtek chipsetom to blblo. Napr ani MGX-ovi / ma Intelacku sietovku/ neprisiel ani jeden packet, ak na druhej strane bol Reatek. Ale voci Sis 900 to slo. Treba najst vhodu sietovku s dobrym chpsetom. Osobne vidim v tom problem, lebo som sa o tom vcera presvedcil, ze co to robi. A my sme to otestovali na WIN, tam sa da v nastaveniach urcit, ze sietovka nech je v rezime 10 mbit full duplex. Testli sme to a vieme, ze to funguje full duplex a uz to treba dat na linuxove masiny a nastavit spravne sietovky.

Kazdopadne moja rada, treba najst kombnaciu sietoviek, ktore navzajom komunikuju.A neje pravidlo ze sietokvy s rovnakym chipsetom ale iny vyrobca, ze to funguje. Mne sa najviac pozdava Sis 900.
 
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kiwi
Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 11.07.2004 - 11:36 #10126
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nenapisal si OS, ani typy sietoviek co si pouzil.

Ako pisal jozo (maxipc), sis 900 nam chodila doteraz oproti vsetkemu, rtl nechodil oproti intelu.

Co sa tyka full duplex 10 mbit, tak doteraz fungovalo len sis900 oproti mercury rtl 8139, ked tam bola ina nalepka ako mercury, tak to neslo, ale je mozne ze sietovka bola nafigu.

A takisto nedoporucujem testy na nforce sietovkach co su onboard, doteraz to ani raz totiz neslo, nezavisle od nastavenia ci to bolo na automatic alebo na 100 ci 10 mbit, full alebo half duplex.
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 11.07.2004 - 11:54 #10127
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jojo, prisiel som k zaverom, ktore prave citam
bolo to sietovkou, daka integrovana

windows-windows ftpckom nadhera 1.1+1.1MB/s
linux-linux pingom tiez 1.1+1.1, ale cez sambu len 1MB/s spolu a nechapem preco

Ako moc presne treba mierit na seba tie krabicky ked to mam na koberci polozene a xcem dosiahnut vzdialenost napr. 1m?
lebo v podstate nad 30cm mi to bez paket lossu nejde.
Jo a ake rssi mate bezne na aku vzdialenost?
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 11.07.2004 - 13:30 #10131
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Co sa tyka rychlosti, my sme mali na programe DU meter rychlosti max 1,14MB/s a priemer okolo 940 kB/s. Myslim ze v pohode.
Testoval som to doma na Win - Linux router a tiez Win -- Win.

Co sa tyka tych vzdialenosti, tak ja som mal krabicky od seba asi 1,5 m, vid foto http://www.skfree.sk/skf/files/ronja/DSCF1111.jpg , a slo to bez packet lossu a priemer ping bez zataze bol 0.4 ms a pri vytazeni max 30 ms. Priemer 6 ms. Teda mne to slo bez packetlossu aj nad 1,5 m. RSSi som mal doma okolo 3 V na 1,5m vzdialenosti. Vcera, ked to bolo komplet v rurach osadene a zamerane, tak RSSI bolo okolo 4V. No zistili sme, ze na prenos staci RRSI aj 0.4V a pingy idu. No ak dosiahnes 4 V, tak to musi dostatocne dobre sliapat so sosovkami aj na 1 km. No tych 0,4 V je pre beznu prevadzku velmi malo, ja osobne odporucam nezijst pod 3 - 3.5 V.
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 11.07.2004 - 16:20 #10134
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Mam na ceste 20 plosakov ronje - mozno nejake zostanu, tak potom mozem popredat. Dnes som ja dokoncil krabicky - trvalo mi to asi dve hodinky aj so zhananim plechu Smile Kto ma zaujem kuknite

http://www.maco.sk/ronja/twister/2004-0 ... bicky2.jpg krabicky
http://www.maco.sk/ronja/twister/2004-07-09/twistre.JPG twistre

Prosim prosim, potrebujem integrace - hlavne 74HC164 - aspon 10 kusov. Poradite nieco v okoli Ba? A ma niekto v okoli Ba lupy 130mm? Pripadne je niekto v okoli Ba co by chcel dalej spolupracovat na Ronii?
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 11.07.2004 - 19:06 #10138
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maco, aky plech si pouzival? lebo mi mame urcitu zasobu 0,35 pocinovaneho plechu, ale ked dojde aby som vedel kde ho mam zhanat.
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 28.07.2004 - 19:01 #10401
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Vcera sme dali do testovacej prevadzky prvu RONJU. Tu su nejake foto a info:

Podarilo sa nam pri testoch dosiahnut maximalnu rychlost 19 mbit (9500 obomi smermi) a maximalny pocet packetov za sekundu presiahol pri full duplexe 18200 za sekundu. Tieto impozantne cisla hovoria sami za seba.

Prikladam niekolko obrazkov:

www.rupkki.sk/pictures/ping-f-s100.jpg
www.rupkki.sk/pictures/ping-f-s500.jpg
www.rupkki.sk/pictures/ping-f.jpg
www.rupkki.sk/pictures/packetloss.jpg
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/parada.jpg
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/tkacska.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/tkacska1.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/svetlo2.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/svetlo.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/ronjatkacska.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/ronjatkacska1.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/ronja4.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/ronja3.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/ronja2.JPG
www.rup.sk/jozo/ronja/new/ronja1.JPG
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 28.07.2004 - 19:31 #10403
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hm nevsimol som si ziadne vyhrievanie skla na fotkach nebojite sa rosenia ci namrazy? spravi niekto aj ekonomicku analyzu takychto kusov?
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 28.07.2004 - 20:00 #10405
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Orosenia sa zatial nebojim nakolko aj pri tychto dazdoch a tomto pocasi je sosovka orosena. A nevadi to. Nase spoje budu mat max 500 metrov. Teda aj orosenie by nemalo vadit na kratkych spojochj. Ak ale bude potrebne ohrievanie, je to otazka 1 hodiny namontovat ohrev. Ja osobne zatial nechcem moc spekulovat, kym to chodi a chodi to spolahlivo, tak do toho nejdem rypat. Ale az cas ukaze co a ako. Pre nas je hlavne to, ze sme odlahcili wifi a namiesto latencii miestami az 2 sec su teraz latencie pod 0.5 ms.
 
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Post subject: RE: RONJA - STAVBA  PostPosted: 28.07.2004 - 22:15 #10413
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imho 500m je pri takto velkych sosovkach uz dost ale sak sa uvidi ci bude treba ci nie ankolko suhlasim s nazorom ze ak raz nieco funguje netreba sa do toho rypat;o))
 
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