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Ako shapovat

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yeager
Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 05.04.2016 - 21:45 #110960
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ved pravevto planujem, len neviem ci je lepsia volba xenon alebo ten 36jadrovy zazrak od MK
 
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theone
Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 05.04.2016 - 21:53 #110961
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daj najyakladnejsi xeon nie tel low power a ma po starostiach
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 06:53 #110964
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yeager wrote: ›ved pravevto planujem, len neviem ci je lepsia volba xenon alebo ten 36jadrovy zazrak od MK

Na 36 nadrovy zazrak sa vyser, pokial chces na tom robit nieco ine ako routing a nat. Shapovanie nevie CCR rozlozit medzi jadra a tak sa ti stane ze zopar jadier budes mat na 100% a ostatne sa budu poflakovat. Co to bude stvarat u klientov ti asi nemusim pisat. Ked budes stavat masinu s xeonom tak sa zameraj na vela cache, vysoku frekvneciu a hlavne dobre sietovky. Ak dnes stihnem tak pozriem ake mam ja.
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 08:16 #110965
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pouziva niekto prakticky shaping zabudovany v UBNT klientskych zariadeniach ? zaujmaju ma skusenosti s tym
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 08:16 #110966
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pouziva niekto prakticky shaping zabudovany v UBNT klientskych zariadeniach ? zaujmaju ma skusenosti s tym. nastavi sa tam down/up pre daneho klienta takze by to malo stacit
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 08:51 #110967
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Robit shaping na klientovi sa logicky oplati len pre upload - to by sa dalo aj na ubnt. Ale osobne to nepouzivam. Pre down je lepsie na gateway alebo aspon na AP.
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 08:56 #110968
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jurkoo wrote: ›Robit shaping na klientovi sa logicky oplati len pre upload - to by sa dalo aj na ubnt. Ale osobne to nepouzivam. Pre down je lepsie na gateway alebo aspon na AP.

chapem co myslis , ale prakticky TCP algoritmus spomali automaticky na rychlost downloadu takze ti tam nevznika nejaky velky download ktory by sa zahadzoval. viem ze existuju aj ine protokoly,ale tie sa na velke prenosy nepouzivaju, okrem uTP mozno. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Transport_Protocol)
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 12:41 #110969
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misohero wrote: ›pouziva niekto prakticky shaping zabudovany v UBNT klientskych zariadeniach ? zaujmaju ma skusenosti s tym


skusal som to, chodi to pekne. beznych klientov (L3 internet0 shapujeme na pppoe koncentratore, ale shapovanie na UBNT ma tiez svoje vyuzitie, napriklad pri poskytnuti L2 okruhu (ktory neprechadza pppoe koncentratorom).
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 12:50 #110970
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yeager wrote: ›asi mas pravdu, len uprimne povediac nemam ani sajnu ako to mam urobit Smile
napriklad ked mam 500M linku a chcem robit shaping na dalsich 10 MK tak na tych MK mam nastavit sirku pasma na 50M? potom sa moze stat ze niekde linka ostane nevyuzita a niekde uplne zahltena ... alebo sa da na MK nastavit dynamicka sirka pasma? ze sirka pasma na tych 10MK sa bude dynamicky menit v zavislosi od hlavneho MK?


kludne si na tych 10 mrkvitikoch nastav ze maju uplink 200mbit, alebo 400 mbit, alebo 500mbit, to mas v principe jedno. ak ti do neho kvoli uzkemu hrdlu na backbone nedolezie dost trafficu, je to to iste, akoby ti tam nedoliezlo dost trafficu kvoli tomu ze niekto taha z pomaleho internetoveho servera.
samozrejme ratam s tym ze mas dost internetovej konektivity a ze netahas cely den hlavnu linku po strope.

centralny shaper je vec ktora bude mat s pribudajicim poctom uzivatelov problem, pretoze bude narastat pocet paketov aj pocet pravidiel ktore musi kazdy paket prejst, a tak bude nutne aby vykon stroja narastal exponencialne, co sa dost tazko dosahuje.
 
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theone
Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 19:16 #110975
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http://www.meconet.de/cms/upload/public ... Series.pdf
 
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Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 06.04.2016 - 21:35 #110976
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theone wrote: ›http://www.meconet.de/cms/upload/public_dl/meconet/meconet_datasheet-HPR-Series.pdf


a vies aj nejake cca ceny tych routrov?
 
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yeager
Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 07.04.2016 - 07:53 #110977
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@bakula: pozrel si sa na to?

aj mna by zaujimala cena tych routerov ...
 
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bakula
Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 07.04.2016 - 09:10 #110978
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Intel EXPI9402PTBLK
Intel I350T2BLK
Obe chodia ako hodinky v mikrotiku (za urcitych podmienok). Mam tu jeden XEON X3360 + 6G RAM + Intel EXPI9402PTBLK na sklade ako rezervu. Ked velmi potrebujes tak za par stovak ti ho viem pustit.
 
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theone
Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 07.04.2016 - 09:32 #110980
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ten link ma byt len ako pomocka poskladajte si v asbise supermicro podla toho linku a uvidite
 
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yeager
Post subject: RE: Ako shapovat  PostPosted: 07.04.2016 - 09:58 #110982
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na ebay som pozeral suoermicra, je ichbtam dost, ale tie maconety maju viaz eth a aj sfp .. skusim im napisat
 
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